Erion and Mikronite?

[EmDee]

Ok, so what the heck is Mikronite Eric, what does it do, how does it benefit the crank, blah blah blah? :secret:Is there any truth to Erion's claim that they've done it in the past and AMA tech has allowed it? Generally curious and want the scoop!

Link from RRW on Josh's crank (http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=32029).

[CoachVino]

Here is a link to the process in question. It is used in many applications not just in racing where higher finish tolerances, strengths, lubricity characteristics etc. are needed. Its pretty crazy shiiite! Not sure how exactly that process warrants a DQ but I also dont know the rules of the AMA for that matter!
http://www.mmsonline.com/articles/1006rt1.html
Ciao, Vino.

[Lowitz]

I love their excuse of "Well we've done it the past few years!" Oh... so you've been cheating and getting away with it? Stupid. The rule regarding the crank is black and white. Can't do anything to it, has to be OEM.

[Ed Who?]

very basically it makes the crankshaft smoother for less oil drag (more hp!!) and if i recall conversations from other engine guys in the field its helps with the surface strengths of the metal....again pretty $$$ for a few hp and bit more longevity. I am sure they have done it for years, and the ama allowed. IMO it is illegal, however if they did in 2007 and were ok, then in 2008 the new guy says NO, its kinda shitty imo.

[Afterimage]

They should just cryo their shit instead. It also reduces friction and strengthens parts but it doesn't change the appearance to the naked eye. ;)

[sanfret]

however if they did in 2007 and were ok, then in 2008 the new guy says NO, its kinda shitty imo.

Put the grid on notice... rules are going to be enforced and regardless of who it makes look bad. They are stirring the pot.

[Ed Who?]

They should just cryo their shit instead. It also reduces friction and strengthens parts but it doesn't change the appearance to the naked eye. ;)

Cryo does not help with friction though like Mikronite does! honestly, Luke's new 954 HRC trans i got from them was done with this process and it shifts like absolute butter!! its amazing stuff. I have done cryo and it helps, but imo it too is way overrated for our applications. Mikronite is pretty amazing process especially in oil drag applications

[03 VFR]

Cryo doesn't affect friction on it's own. It will help after some polishing (thus still being illegal ). And it affects certain metals more than others. Anything with higher carbon points will get best results. I don't know how much carbon an OEM crank has in it, but I wouldn't think very much. Cryo is a surface heat treating. Usually used when heat will warp or destroy the part. A lot of springs are heat treated this way, because heat makes them lose there "memory".
Like E said Mikronite helps with strength. But what it really does is smooth out the surface so smooth that there are no peaks and valleys. IE fracture points. You can run less lubrication and still get the same safety margin. They "blast" the parts with media to align the grain structure first ( adds strength ) and then polish to remove any of the fracture points.
This process is used a lot in the industrial world for high bearing load applications. It reduces the physical size of machines, and lets the OEM pack things in tighter areas with less fear of warranty issues..........

[Afterimage]

Cryo does not help with friction though like Mikronite does! honestly, Luke's new 954 HRC trans i got from them was done with this process and it shifts like absolute butter!! its amazing stuff. I have done cryo and it helps, but imo it too is way overrated for our applications. Mikronite is pretty amazing process especially in oil drag applicationsBut at least cryo treating would sneak past inspection since the appearance doesn't change, that was my point. :D It would help reduce friction some and nobody looking over the parts would have the first clue anything had been done. You can spot those parts that went through the Mikronite process a mile away. It does look cool as hell though. Any idea how much it costs to get a crank, tranny and other pieces done?

[mpp12]

Good publicity for that company, now every guy that thinks that need that extra edge will say "all I need is my crank like that"
yea right :1238: